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Why MMA will take over Boxing in Australia

Posted by angryfightfan on February 20, 2010

How well would the boxing kangaroo fight off it's back?

With one night to go until the UFC makes it’s much anticipated Australian debut, everything in this country is set up for MMA to finally push boxing into the past and emerge as the future of combat sports down under. With the shoddy state of boxing in Australia at the moment, about the only thing that will stop MMA from moving past boxing would be an ugly incident either in the Octagon or in the crowd at next Sundays event. With even the head honcho’s involved with boxing not caring about it’s future, but rather trying to milk every last cent out of it right now, yet the people in charge of MMA trying to build the sport’s long term future it’s only inevitable that boxing be taken over by the new sport.  

With the small coverage MMA has received in Australia it has a cult following among the people who know about it. The guys who know lots about it get their friends into it, albeit at a much smaller level. The effect of this is like that of a trail of gun powderand the UFC 110 card in Sydney tomorrow is the spark that will explode MMA into a more mainstream sport in Australia. Tomorrow’s show sold out inside of a week with probably 90% of the tickets selling before they were open to the public meaning that there will likely be a second show sometime in the not to distant future (likely next year around the same time). With hardly any big boxing fights taking place in Australia (Australia’s main promoter Angelo Hyder is stuck in the late 90s thinking that big names that Australians want to see are Roy Jones jnr, Evander Holyfield and Mike Tyson, three men ten years past their best), an annual UFC event will only help the sport grow. The fact that One HD has scrapped it’s “Super Boxer” series and shows next to no current boxing, yet they will show UFC 110 live tomorrow for free is also a big sign of what is to come in the future. 

The bottom line is that Boxing in this country is a joke. The fact that Australians will go to the pub or fork out $50 to watch a Mundine pay per view to see him fight some fringe South American contender while some Rugby League star has a pub brawl with a guy who wouldn’t even be club level material anywhere else in the world yet they couldn’t tell you who the heavyweight champion of the world is is of major concern. Nothing is done to push boxing back into the spotlight or develop some of the upcoming fighters. Even the recent Australian version of ‘The Contender’ left out decent prospects like Jamie Pittman, a man who has the skills to be a threat on the world stage but lacks the exposure that a show like ‘The Contender’ would have given him to be able to build a following in this country. There are plenty of guys out there like Jamie Pittman who are talented boxers but just can’t build the following down here that they would have otherwise done if boxing was taken seriously. Sure Pittman is very well known to the boxing public, but do you really think the Captain of the Australian Olympic Boxing team would be struggling to get televised or even get decent fights in England or the USA? Yet guys like Sonny Bill Williams and Carl Webb get main support fights on what is probably the biggest stage in Australian boxing (the Mundine shows) and probably earn just as much!  

The production value of boxing shows is also a major problem with boxing in Australia. The fact that  MORON like Andy Raymond, who is a Rugby League commentator with no clue about anything boxing is the voice of the sport down here is nauseating. The ring announcers have no idea how to properly announce a show, and yes there is a proper and improper way of doing things. For one, you don’t announce the rules of the bout while the fighters are in the ring waiting to get it on (see the Green-Jones prelims for an example). You don’t announce a close decision in favour of ”the red corner” in the biggest domestic fight of the year (see Mundine-Geale decision) when no one pays any attention which corner they’re fighting out of. It’s painful watching a high profile boxing card in Australia because you can tell that the people in charge of running it have no idea what they’re doing. I rarely watch local Fox Sports boxing shows anymore because of how bad it is (that and the mismatches that they often have). You don’t need four or five ring girls dancing in the ring between rounds with dance music playing (you didn’t see this on say the Pacquiao-Cotto card for example did you?). You don’t need to show the Australian rankings after every fight and you definately don’t need to show random rounds out of insignificant fights from past local shows when you’ve got nothing else to do. One of the main strengths of the UFC is the production value. They do an amazing job of hyping up the fights with pre fight interviews, a highly energetic ring announcer and the right amount of tits and arse between rounds with the focus being more on the fighters which is what the people watching paid to see. 

Should the UFC 110 card deliver tomorrow, expect to see a rise in regional MMA shows and an even further drop in local pro-am boxing cards. With more and more people already turning to kickboxing or jiu jitsu, there’s bound to be an emergence of competitors willing to try their luck with 4oz gloves instead of the 12oz gloves and headgear that amateur boxers use. There are already a number of good fighters from Australia and New Zealand (two of them fight tomorrow night on the main card) and if some of them can increase their celebrity down here to a slightly mainstream audience, something that say a victory for George Sotiropolous over Joe Stevenson tomorrow night would do, it’s only going to help the MMA cause down under. Boxing has been on a slow decline in this country since the late 80′s when we had our last batch of Australian contenders who actually fought one another. Sure there’s been a slight resurgence with the likes of Anthony Mundine and Danny Green and Daniel Geale, but our best fighters (Vic Darchinyan and Michael Katsidis) both fight overseas and have a bigger following in the USA then they do down here. No longer are the days of TV ringside where contenders were brought up through the tough local circuit and had to earn their status when fighters like Hector Thompson, Tony Mundine and Paul Ferreri gave the world champions of the day, men who are among the greatest to have ever entered a boxing ring in their respective divisions, some of the toughest fights of their career. The state of boxing today is one of prospects not learning their craft through overprotection and mismatches who end up taking the massive step up in class that they aren’t ready for and when they lose those that were paying attention to them no longer do while the rest of Australia who aren’t as into boxing as someone like me is go on watching their Mundine cards and having a laugh when the two heavyweights start trading arm punches with their chin in the air. MMA has slowly been taking over in America, and although boxing is run pretty badly over there, it’s not nearly as bad as it is down here. All that is needed to start the MMA frenzy is for the biggest promotion in the world to bring one of its shows down here to get some mainstream attention.

Posted in Anthony Mundine, Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira, Australian Boxing, Australian MMA, Boxing on One HD, Cain Velasquez, Daniel Geale, Danny Green, George Sotiropolous, Michael Bisping, Michael Katsidis, Mirko Cro Cop, MMA, UFC, UFC 110, UFC on One HD, Vic Darchinyan, Wanderlei Silva | 2 Comments »

Geale was Robbed!

Posted by angryfightfan on June 2, 2009

I rewatched the controversial Mundine-Geale fight of last Wednesday earlier today in peace and quiet without the biased commentary team in my ear or a bunch of drunk morons shouting shit like ‘farrrrken killllllimmmm!’ The result, a fairly one sided scorecard for Daniel Geale. I still think a lot of the rounds were close, but I still think Geale was the aggressor for the entire fight, as well as landing the cleaner punches and doing the better job of blocking punches out of the two of them. It really is a different fight to watch without the moronic ramblings of Barry Michael and Andy Raymond (and to a much lesser extent Paul Upham). I suggest it to everyone who has an interest in this fight to rewatch the fight with no sound and to write each round score on a different sheet of paper and then fold it up and tally your scorecard up at the end of the fight and see how it comes out. Here is how I scored the fight:

gealemundinecard

Now there’s a couple of rounds that could swing either way, but I really find it hard to score that fight for Mundine. Geale basically outworked him and outpunched him for the majority of the 12 rounds and while Mundine had his moments, they were smothered in Geale’s workrate throughout the entire fight. If there’s a round you disagree with me on, please feel free to flame me in the comments section and I’ll be more then happy to respond and if you hate my scoring that much please post it on a message board somewhere, I could do with the extra viewers.

Posted in Anthony Mundine, Australian Boxing, Boxing, Daniel Geale, Mundine vs Geale | Leave a Comment »

Mundine defeats Geale

Posted by angryfightfan on May 30, 2009

I should have had this up sooner, but I’ve yet to find the time to re-watch the fight in a more sober and quiet area. This fight was one of the best in recent times for Australian boxing. I scored the fight for Geale 115-112, but in the situation I was in watching the fight I find it hard to believe that my scoring was 100% accurate. First of all, I had money on Geale. Secondly, the idiot commentators and the idiots at the pub I was watching it made the fight hard to watch without being biased. Basically, I’m going to sit down and rewatch the fight in the coming days with no sound on and without anyone else watching it and rescore it and I’ll post my scorecard up then. However, there’s a few things I have to talk about that I can’t wait any longer or they won’t be nearly as relevant.

Barry Michael should be removed as the on-air scorer. There were rounds that were clear one way or the other yet Michael always seemed to score them the other way (and not just for Mundine). The guy has absolutely no idea how to score a boxing match and thats a fact. On top of that, the guy’s inability to see the bleeding obvious in a fight continues to astound me. It’s got to the stage where he can’t tell a right hand punch from a left one, and a body punch from a headshot. Combine him with that moron Andy Raymond who hasn’t got the faintest idea when it comes to boxing, and Paul Upham, who I have tremendous respect for although I think he sells himself short to make Raymond look good, and it makes for very unpleasant listening to say the least.

Next there is the obvious one, Sonny Fucking Bull Williams. That was the worst excuse for a professional fight I’ve ever seen in my many years watching this great sport and things like this only bring boxing down more and more in this country especially when the media covers the likes of him and not the likes of Alex Leapai who scored a devastating knockout win over a much better opponent then the retard they brought in to fight Williams. Williams looked like he’d got himself in shape like he would for a Rugby League match, then watched how Mundine does it and tried to impersonate him. His jab was pathetic, his right hand even more so, his stance was garbage and he looked winded after the first round.

It was just lucky that his opponent didn’t know his right foot from his left leg or his ear from his arsehole when it came to boxing. If that guy knocked out bouncers in New Zealand I have to wonder whether he did it with his hands or if he slipped something into their drinks while they weren’t looking. I’ve seen better punches in pub brawls then what that guy was throwing. The thing that really pisses me off about this is the media coverage though and the praise for Williams’ performance. Let’s call a spade a spade here and this is where I lose a bit of respect for Paul Upham. If Upham was as serious about Australian boxing, then he’d be calling this what it was which was a freakshow. This fight was more of a freakshow then the baseball player Jose Canseco vs 7’2 Korean Kickboxer Hong Man Choi on the night before. The boxing watcher will always get entertainment out of this sort of garbage but for the media to approve of it, especially someone like Upham who is the top boxing journalist in this country makes me sick!

You know what, I was going to end it there but I’m on a roll right now. I’m going to attack the production of the shows while I’m at it. Would it be so hard for the ring announcers to do a decent job on an Australian boxing show? For example, with the split decision in the Geale-Mundine fight was announced, the first score was scored for ‘the blue corner’ and the 2nd for ‘the red corner.’ I seriously had no idea which fighter was out of which fucking corner when they said this. Would it be that hard to say the fighters name instead? Also, while I’ve got absolutely no objection to the National Anthem being played before a fight, could they do it before the fighters get in the ring instead of after the boxers have been introduced like they do it everywhere else but here?

I have to say, if boxing wasn’t coming back to free to air shortly, I’d be really depressed about the current scene after that night. Anyway, my scorecard and views on the fight itself will be up in the next week or so.

Posted in Anthony Mundine, Australian Boxing, Boxing, Daniel Geale, Mundine vs Geale | 4 Comments »

 
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